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Atheist Finally “Sobers Up”
Nearly 30 years ago, a debate of significant proportions took place. It
was September 20-23, 1976. The place was the campus of North Texas
State University in Denton, Texas. The disputants were two longtime
professors of philosophy—Thomas B. Warren (whose Ph.D. in philosophy was
from Vanderbilt) and Antony G.N. Flew (who was teaching in the
University of Reading near London, England). The propositions they
debated juxtaposed succinctly the real issue between thorough-going
(positive) atheism and thorough-going (biblical) theism. Dr. Flew
affirmed, “I know that God does not exist,” and Dr. Warren affirmed, “I know that God does exist.”
Dr. Warren once explained why he selected Antony Flew as his opponent
in the debate. His rationale was simple: if those who are on the cutting
edge of philosophical thought and who are considered to be the leaders
in their chosen area of expertise—the “best of the best” if you will—are
unable to defend their position when confronted by a fair and accurate
defense of the truth, their error will be exposed. Those who were
influenced by these leading men would be forced (like the “domino
effect”) to recognize the sterility of the viewpoint they had embraced.
Antony Flew had been a leading champion of atheism for decades. His
writings dominated philosophical journals, and he was a prolific author
[his books included Hume’s Philosophy of Belief (1961), God and Philosophy (1966), Evolutionary Ethics (1967), An Introduction to Western Philosophy (1971), and even a book on logic—Thinking Straight
(1975)]. Having taught at Oxford, Aberdeen, Keele, and Reading
universities in Britain, Flew also served as a visiting professor in
many American universities, and conducted numerous debates in the
process of defending his atheism.
For the first two nights of the Warren-Flew debate, Flew assumed the affirmative position in an attempt to prove that God does not
exist. However, Warren’s kind-but-relentless assault in the negative
position seemed to leave Flew battered, bewildered, and disoriented—so
much so that when Dr. Warren assumed the affirmative position on the
third night of the debate, he spent a few minutes attempting to
ascertain the reason for Dr. Flew’s failure, while in the affirmative,
to present a sound argument for his atheistic contention in a precise
logical way:
It has been suggested that his failure is due to the fact that he is
in a foreign country, but such could have little or nothing to do with
this proposition. That he is out of his own country has nothing to do
with how he handles intellectual material. Neither is his failure due to
his not being accustomed to this style of debating. I have heard him in
discussion before, and he seemed not to be bothered at all by the kind
of format that was involved. Perhaps he did not know the responsibility
of an affirmative speaker? But that cannot be so because, in his
writings, he constantly chides a man who does not recognize his
responsibility as an affirmant. Perhaps because he does not know the
arguments? I deny that emphatically. In reading the works of Dr. Flew, I
am convinced that he knows the arguments that are involved as well as
anybody in the world. Perhaps because he does not understand or accept
the law of rationality? The truth of the matter is: he has written very
strongly and frequently in defense of it! But he has not acted in harmony with it in this
discussion. Ordinarily, when he is writing in the affirmative, and he
writes almost constantly of matters that are concerned with God or very
closely related to God—at least subjects that are peripheral to the
subject of God. In fact, it is the case that he is almost God-intoxicated. He constantly emphasizes in his books that the onus of proof is on the affirmative writer or speaker! But I am afraid that he has not recognized that truth in this discussion (1977, pp. 131-132, emp. in orig.).
In the very next speech—the first negative—Dr. Flew responded to Dr.
Warren’s comments in the following words: “Dr. Warren may be assured
that I am sobering up from God intoxication. I shall be writing
considerably less, if anything, in this area in the future” (p. 143,
emp. added). Now, 28 years later, Dr. Flew appears, indeed, to finally
have sobered up. At the age of 81, he has announced to the world that,
based upon the scientific evidence, he now believes in some type of God
(“Famous Atheist…,” 2004). However, do not jump to any premature
conclusions. One interviewer spoke with Dr. Flew about his recent
adjustments in his thinking, and concluded:
The fact of the matter is: Flew hasn’t really decided what to believe.
He affirms that he is not a Christian—he is still quite certain that
the Gods of Christianity or Islam do not exist, that there is no
revealed religion, and definitely no afterlife of any kind. But he is
increasingly persuaded that some sort of Deity brought about this
universe, though it does not intervene in human affairs, nor does it
provide any postmortem salvation. He says he has in mind something like
the God of Aristotle, a distant, impersonal “prime mover.” It might not
even be conscious, but a mere force. In formal terms, he regards the
existence of this minimal God as a hypothesis that, at present, is
perhaps the best explanation for why a universe exists that can produce
complex life. But he is still unsure. In fact, he asked that I not
directly quote him yet, until he finally composes his new introduction
to a final edition of his book God and Philosophy, due out next
year. He hasn’t completed it yet, precisely because he is still
examining the evidence and thinking things over. Anything he says now,
could change tomorrow (Carrier, 2004).
Here is what Flew has stated about whether he believes in God in the biblical sense:
I do not think I will ever make that assertion, precisely because any
assertion which I am prepared to make about God would not be about a God
in that sense ... I think we need here a fundamental distinction
between the God of Aristotle or Spinoza and the Gods of the Christian
and the Islamic Revelations…. My one and only piece of
relevant evidence [for an Aristotelian God] is the apparent
impossibility of providing a naturalistic theory of the origin from DNA
of the first reproducing species... [In fact] the only reason which I
have for beginning to think of believing in a First Cause god is the impossibility of providing a naturalistic account of the origin of the first reproducing organisms (as quoted in Carrier, italics in orig., emp. added).
It’s a step. But Dr. Flew has a long way to go to arrive at the truth
concerning God’s existence. Observe that even when an atheist is forced
to recognize that the evidence demands that a purposive, intelligent
Being lies behind the Creation, he still endeavors to relegate this
intelligence to an impersonal force that does not “provide a postmortem
salvation.” Why? Because the same Being also would provide a “postmortem
condemnation” in which humans will rightly and justly receive
punishment for their sinful behavior on Earth. Can’t have that, can we?!
It would mean adjusting one’s daily life choices and relegating one’s
stubborn pride beneath the will of God.
Flew also stated: “My whole life has been guided by the principle of Plato’s Socrates: Follow the evidence, wherever it leads”
(“Famous Atheist…,” emp. added). If that were true, he would have
already been led to the truth that the God of the Bible exists (just
read the Warren-Flew debate!). Indeed, all the available evidence leads
to that singular conclusion. The very evidence that Flew now believes
indicates the existence of some sort of God, is the same evidence that
he once insisted supported atheism! It took him 66 years to arrive at
this most recent conclusion (Flew has been a self-avowed atheist since
he was 15). But given the current human lifespan, he does not have
another 66 years to follow the evidence to where it leads.
REFERENCES
Carrier, Richard (2004), “Antony Flew Considers God—Sort Of,” [On-line], URL: http://www.secweb.org/asset.asp?AssetID=369.
“Famous Atheist Now Believes in God” (2004), The Associated Press, December 9, [On-line], URL: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=315976.
Flew, Antony G.N. and Thomas B. Warren (1977), Warren-Flew Debate (Jonesboro, AR: National Christian Press).